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Magic Joint Chatter: The Crowd Goes Wild

Posted: 06‑03‑2014 00:42


JoeJoe

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Been getting great feedback on my Crowd Goes Wild - has been a very exciting week for me. I take a lot of pride in being able to help other people become magicians, I've been teaching magic for most of my career - not just online, but in multiple magic shops I've worked and owned over the years.

So if anyone has noticed, my kitty Kelly makes a brief cameo. Often I have to stop filming and shut down the studio because she wants attention. Love her to death, so don't mind at all. :)

Tonight was my first night at Barefoot and I got to see my Crowd Goes Wild from a new perspective - it was a slow night, and didn't have an "actual crowd" all night, so I basically was working the exact same lines from the lecture video. I almost had a crowd I could have hatted, but for some reason I just choked - I hadn't done a flush all night and just said to myself "why start now"? lol

Will be glad when next week gets here and the crowds start to form. And that is something I will cover in the future - about the myth of crowd sizes.

Many people believe that the larger the crowd and the bigger the hat, the better the performer. The truth is much like the your funeral, the size of the crowd will be determined by the weather.

By that logic, you could come watch me July 4th weekend and you'd think I was the best busker in the world drawing a hundred people in two minutes flat. Come back August 23rd when school starts and you'd think I was one of the worst - I couldn't draw a hundred people to save my life.

So stop worrying about the size of the crowd - a crowd is a crowd is a crowd. If you can hat three groups of strangers, you can hat six groups of strangers, or even twelve or more groups of strangers. :)

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 06‑03‑2014 02:27


Devious

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This is the best bit o' wisdom I've heard
thus far from where I stand in my career.
(others may vary). Thanks for sharin'.


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Posted: 06‑09‑2014 12:29


PoofDaddy

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As far as crowd size when I have worked for tips in the past, Smaller crowds can be better hats as they feel it was more personal to them.

I also think you could spend years trying to add in the socio-economical factors of any size crowds. The old "People who work for tips are better tippers" and a "working class man tips better than a CEO type"

Then, as you say... The weather...

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Posted: 07‑14‑2014 22:49


JoeJoe

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This summer I've noticed myself using "fractionation" more than I realized.

Probably could have described it better on the video. I'm sure when I get around to the "live examples" I clear up the confusion.

Basically, I fractionate whenever I can't get another group to stop and watch.

So let's say I got two kids with mom and dad to stop and show the little boy a trick. If nobody else has joined the show, I'm going to say "here's one you'll like - all the girls like money tricks" and show a trick to the little girl.

If at the end of that trick nobody else has joined the show, I will then target dad - "here's the one you'll like sir".

I very much do not like doing this, as it doesn't do anything to create an actual "crowd". But it does keep the show rolling and helps prevent them from walking.

Hopefully, someone else will stop and join the show ... if not, I'm still looking at a tip for the trickle show. Often these tips can be larger than normal, as people do seem to appreciate when they know you are giving them special attention.

So to sum this all up, you don't need a tour bus of 20 people to use fractionation. Hopefully by summer's end I'll have an example video demonstrating this technique in action. :)

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 07‑29‑2014 13:38


JoeJoe

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There is a significant importance to something I alluded to in the Crowd Goes Wild - not talking to any particular person even when you are talking to a specific person.

Like when I say "you wanna see a trick too - I got one you'll like", I'm saying it to a group of persons, not any one person. Thus, nobody actually knows who I am talking to.

This is important because of a person's perception of his own self-worth; meaning everyone in that group of persons will want to assume I am talking to them.

So even though I am saying something as if I was talking to one person, an entire group believes I am talking to them directly.

It's an easy technique to master, I simply don't look at people when I say it. My usual method is to look towards one side of the audience, then as I start talking I look down to my pouch as I pull out whatever the next trick is. Thus, I'm looking at my pouch when I say "I got one you'll like". So technically speaking, it is impossible to determine who I am talking to.

This of course is not mandatory, I often am speaking to someone in particular when I say that. Just wanted to highlight what I consider to be a very strong technique I use.

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 08‑02‑2014 13:59


JoeJoe

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Telling your audience you have a crowd - something I consider important.

During my shows, I am constantly profiling people - "look at this kid" - "here you go sir" - "did you see that mam" - "pay attention Sara".

If there are two people there with the same profile, each can assume you are talking to them - adding value to your show with a personal touch.

It also reminds everyone that doesn't fit the profile that there is a "crowd" here - a verbal way to describe your crowd. If you were to listen on the radio, you would know there was a man, a woman, and at least one kid there (a crowd being three or more groups of strangers).

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 09‑20‑2014 16:44


gman

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Umm, do we have an eta on part 2 yet?

They say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas...that is unless you post it on YouTube!

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Posted: 09‑20‑2014 19:22


JoeJoe

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Might have time within the next two weeks for filming. :)

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 06‑03‑2015 04:59


Artemis17

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Have you made a part 2 yet? Can't wait to watch, part 1 was excellent!

Cheers!

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Posted: 06‑05‑2015 08:56


JoeJoe

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I haven't made part two yet, one day I will ... maybe I'll have some time in the fall to fire up the studio. :)

-JoeJoe

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Posted: 10‑15‑2015 20:22


JoeJoe

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Part Two has been filmed and should be being released any day now. :)

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